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Parker Haffey's avatar

Great article, thanks for sharing. I found your comments on the 'Recursion' phase of your model especially interesting. Nuanced viewpoints or the state of being undecided are phenomena which only can exist in the realm of the individual. Groups, by nature, seem to evoke rapid consensus.

The platforms of the American Democratic & Republican parties aren't exactly rigid political philosophies like Marxism or Anarchism. It has always surprised me that they each seem to come to a consensus so rapidly even across wildly different domains. Almost without fail, the consensus each party reaches is inevitably diametrically opposed to that of the opposing party. Thinking in terms of your model, I wonder if those in American politics might also participate in a sort of negative cycle in which they harden themselves against the viewpoints of their opponents.

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Philalethes's avatar

This reads brilliant to me. Upon reflection, however, I would have two queries, which may qualify your conclusions:

- The amplification property of the echo chamber is derived from Condorcet’s theorem. The ‘voters’ in Condircet’s theorem are supposed to reach each their verdict independently, aren’t they? What about the case in which voters are prone to ‘contagion’, eg from a charismatic leader or simply a ‘miraculous’ event? These are often described as cases of ‘madness’ as opposed to ‘wisdom’ of the crowds.

- Relatedly, your illustration of the working of the echo chamber seem to presuppose that individuals choose to belong to the echo chamber that reflect their beliefs. What about the case in which individuals choose their beliefs in order to belong to an echo chamber?

I am not sure how these arguments should qualify your conclusions but my intuition is that they should lead to a more pessimistic view of the phenomenon.

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